Jesus Is Not The Son But A Servant Of God - Sheikh Hussaini Yusuf Mabera
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Gabriel Fadahunsi
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No wonder you sheskh got attacked.somebody said he is the son of God and bible confirmed it. You are saying he is a servant, must you force your believe on someone? Can't you face your business as a servant (slave) u called urself and leave children affairs or you want to see the wrath of ur master(God)?. Slave uar and slave you will be forever until u believe Jesus by faith and be adopted as child.
ismail ibrahim
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I think that has already been established, unless you are willing to contradict the Bible or make the Bible itself a contradiction. See:
I tell you the truth, no SERVANT is greater than his MASTER, nor is a MESSENGER greater than the one who sent him” (John 13:16)
ismail ibrahim
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JESUS AS GOD'S MESSENGER
The word ''Messenger of God" stand for someone that was sent by God. No Christian will deny that Jesus was sent by God when he reads John 17:3, John 4:34, John 7:16, John 5:30.
Mathew 15:24 and John 12:49. The fact that Jesus was sent by God makes him God's messenger.
JESUS AS GOD'S SERVANT
Act 4:30:- "Signs and wonders be done through thy Holy Servant Jesus" (From the RSV)
Acts 3:13 "The God of Abraham, and of Isaac and Jacob, the God of our Fathers glorified his servant Jesus".
Acts 4:27:- "For the truth against thy Holy Servant Jesus'' See also Mathew 12:18, John 13:16 etc
The word ''Messenger of God" stand for someone that was sent by God. No Christian will deny that Jesus was sent by God when he reads John 17:3, John 4:34, John 7:16, John 5:30.
Mathew 15:24 and John 12:49. The fact that Jesus was sent by God makes him God's messenger.
JESUS AS GOD'S SERVANT
Act 4:30:- "Signs and wonders be done through thy Holy Servant Jesus" (From the RSV)
Acts 3:13 "The God of Abraham, and of Isaac and Jacob, the God of our Fathers glorified his servant Jesus".
Acts 4:27:- "For the truth against thy Holy Servant Jesus'' See also Mathew 12:18, John 13:16 etc
Vickleo Damilare
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all of u should go and hand legs. if u are not satisfy u should all go and fuck ur mothers
stato
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you write with such eloquence and have added so much class to the comments. Congratulations @Vicleo Damilare
Gabriel Fadahunsi
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Jesus is not servant but true son of God. By birth,Jesus was conceived through the power of Holy spirit of God. And this is the same spirit that confirm us to be child of God (by adoption) when you believe in Christ Jesus that he is the only son of God. Other prophets were just born like normal human being, their salvation still depend in believing in Jesus Christ as saviour of the world. Sin has separated man from God, since the fall of Adam and eve to sin by devil and we are not worthy to see God again. But God sent his son to die for our sins and shield his blood.so that we can be made holy again to stand before God. Man holiness can only happen through attoment by the blood of Jesus.
Gabriel Fadahunsi
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Jesus is not servant but true son of God. By birth,Jesus was conceived through the power of Holy spirit of God. And this is the same spirit that confirm us to be child of God (by adoption) when you believe in Christ Jesus that he is the only son of God. Other prophets were just born like normal human being, their salvation still depend in believing in Jesus Christ as saviour of the world. Sin has separated man from God, since the fall of Adam and eve to sin by devil and we are not worthy to see God again. But God sent his son to die for our sins and shield his blood.so that we can be made holy again to stand before God. Man holiness can only happen through attoment by the blood of Jesus.
ismail ibrahim
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Are you trying to say the Bible is wrong?
ismail ibrahim
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Are you trying to say the Bible is wrong?
ismail ibrahim
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Gabriel Fadahunsi
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Sending your son message doesn't make him to be servant. Cause is better you send your child the most precious important message else sending servant such message will mess you up.
curator
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@ismail ibrahim - probably best not to work with the lowest common denominator, it does not put you in a good light @stato had already delivered an appropriate response to @Vickleo Damilare
ismail ibrahim
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I admire your zeal to defend your faith bro, but the verses from the Bible above already have you on on a tight leash unless you have another testament/ version of the Bible that says otherwise.
ismail ibrahim
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Thanks for the advice bro, sorry if I/ we made a mess of things.
curator
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No.. the discussions and debates are healthy but they are much healthier when we keep the passion and leave out the abuse
kennyfinest
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u back up ur view bible,where r d bible Verse that confirm his the son of God
John3:16
“For God so loved the world ,
that He gave His only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in
Him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.”
mattew3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
mattew17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Jesus himself said it in
John 12:26-28
26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. 27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
ibrahim, who is the father and who is the son?
John3:16
“For God so loved the world ,
that He gave His only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in
Him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.”
mattew3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
mattew17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Jesus himself said it in
John 12:26-28
26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. 27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
ibrahim, who is the father and who is the son?
ismail ibrahim
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.
I get your understanding of John 3:16, but what you can see above are different versions of translations, the second one I think would be the international standard translation, and as you can see, all have different context.
If I were for the sake of argument agree with you on your understanding what will you make of these? Because clearly other prophets were mentioned in the bible as God's son, see:
Psalms 2:7) David is the begotten Son of God.
Jacob God's firstborn son(Exodus 4:22)
Solomon is God's son (2 Samuel 7:13-14)
Ephraim is God's firstborn son (Jeremiah 31:9)
Adam is the son of God (Luke 3:38)
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.
I get your understanding of John 3:16, but what you can see above are different versions of translations, the second one I think would be the international standard translation, and as you can see, all have different context.
If I were for the sake of argument agree with you on your understanding what will you make of these? Because clearly other prophets were mentioned in the bible as God's son, see:
Psalms 2:7) David is the begotten Son of God.
Jacob God's firstborn son(Exodus 4:22)
Solomon is God's son (2 Samuel 7:13-14)
Ephraim is God's firstborn son (Jeremiah 31:9)
Adam is the son of God (Luke 3:38)
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